Beyond Order: 12 More Rules for Life

Beyond Order: 12 More Rules for Life

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  • Author:Jordan B. Peterson
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Summary

The long-awaited sequel to 12 RULES FOR LIFE, which has sold more than five million copies around the world

In 12 Rules for Life, acclaimed public thinker and clinical psychologist Jordan B。 Peterson offered an antidote to the chaos in our lives: eternal truths applied to modern anxieties。 His insights have helped millions of readers and resonated powerfully around the world。

Now in this much-anticipated sequel, Peterson goes further, showing that part of life's meaning comes from reaching out into the domain beyond what we know, and adapting to an ever-transforming world。 While an excess of chaos threatens us with uncertainty, an excess of order leads to a lack of curiosity and creative vitality。 Beyond Order therefore calls on us to balance the two fundamental principles of reality - order and chaos ­- and reveals the profound meaning that can be found on the path that divides them。

In times of instability and suffering, Peterson reminds us that there are sources of strength on which we can all draw: insights borrowed from psychology, philosophy, and humanity's greatest myths and stories。 Drawing on the hard-won truths of ancient wisdom, as well as deeply personal lessons from his own life and clinical practice, Peterson offers twelve new principles to guide readers towards a more courageous, truthful and meaningful life。

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Reviews

Alexandre Marques

O livro fica muito aquém do primeiro volume das 12 regras para a vida。 Não tem o mesmo pensamento provocador, e é notável que existe uma consciência social devido ao sucesso do primeiro livro e toda a exposição que veio com ele。 Visto que há uma agenda clara, para denegrir o trabalho do autor。O livro não é claro e falha, para mim, as perguntas inciais de cada capitulo/regra。 As vezes, principalmente nos capítulos mais longos, não sei se é um livro para adultos ou para crianças, com resumes de hi O livro fica muito aquém do primeiro volume das 12 regras para a vida。 Não tem o mesmo pensamento provocador, e é notável que existe uma consciência social devido ao sucesso do primeiro livro e toda a exposição que veio com ele。 Visto que há uma agenda clara, para denegrir o trabalho do autor。O livro não é claro e falha, para mim, as perguntas inciais de cada capitulo/regra。 As vezes, principalmente nos capítulos mais longos, não sei se é um livro para adultos ou para crianças, com resumes de historias para crianças。 Estamos no sec。 XXI mas ainda estamos perdidos no passado。 Talvez seja por isso, que em termos sociais, fazemos remakes, usamos tendências de modas de décadas passadas e até a musica deixou de ser um marco de cada década, e continuamos, ainda, a usar as mesmas historias do passados para justificar o presente。 É cansativo e frustrante。 Tal como me senti a ler este livro。 Talvez o século XXI seja, de facto, a morte da autenticidade。 。。。more

Mike Cheng

Admittedly the author’s previous book, 12 Rules for Life, is a tough act to follow, and at the same time I’ve tried not to succumb to the Halo Effect by putting Jordan Peterson on a pedestal。 That said, this book Beyond Order (12 More Rules for Life) was decent but seemingly a bit more scatterbrained imho。 One of the rules here I enjoyed was Rule 6: Abandon Ideology - which describes the danger of attributing the cause of complex individual or social problems to a single variable cause or univar Admittedly the author’s previous book, 12 Rules for Life, is a tough act to follow, and at the same time I’ve tried not to succumb to the Halo Effect by putting Jordan Peterson on a pedestal。 That said, this book Beyond Order (12 More Rules for Life) was decent but seemingly a bit more scatterbrained imho。 One of the rules here I enjoyed was Rule 6: Abandon Ideology - which describes the danger of attributing the cause of complex individual or social problems to a single variable cause or univariate solution。 Dr。 Peterson contends that many of us have adopted certain “isms” (e。g。, conservatism, socialism, anti-racism, environmentalism, etc。) as a new religion / false idols that must be accepted a priori while also vilifying those who disagree as ignorant, greedy, authoritarian, evil, etc。 In reality such issues are incredibly complex and necessitate careful particularized analysis as well as a detailed assessment of whether the proposed solutions will have their intended effects (also taking into account the potential for unintended consequences)。 Unfortunately, and perhaps because of human nature, we instead see these issues through a low-resolution lens and always put ourselves on the morally correct side of the equation without expending the actual effort required to develop a real understanding of those issues。 (Take for instance, renewable energy vs。 fossil fuels (my example, not Dr。 Peterson’s) - while it’s easy to be on the green energy bandwagon and deride fossil fuel proponents as rapacious and uncaring neanderthals, consider that: windmills require 450x the land of a natural gas power plant and harm numerous local bird species; or solar panels take up a huge amount of space and is far less productive (50 watts per square meter compared to 2,000 - 6,000 watts per square meter for natural gas or nuclear power) and contain highly toxic materials that can leach into the ground。 Michael Schellenberger contends that environmentalism today has become the secular religion of the educated, upper-middle class elite。 It provides a new story about our collective and individual purpose, designates heroes and villains, and does so using the language of science (which in their minds provided legitimacy)。) For those interested in hearing about Dr。 Peterson’s recent health issues and difficulties can hear it straight from the horse’s mouth in the book’s overture。 (Most of the book was written while he was in the hospital。) 。。。more

Nate

This is a must read。 One of my all time favorites

Chloe Allysen

We are so lucky we were able to read this book。 Peterson almost died multiple times in the past year and a half。 His family went through a terrible time, they themselves having serious ailments around the same time。 His daughter Mikhaila and her husband Andre saved his life by devoting their life to keeping him alive。 He discusses this briefly before he starts the book, and mentions it a few times in the book as well。 This book was way more enjoyable than the first book! Peterson still did take We are so lucky we were able to read this book。 Peterson almost died multiple times in the past year and a half。 His family went through a terrible time, they themselves having serious ailments around the same time。 His daughter Mikhaila and her husband Andre saved his life by devoting their life to keeping him alive。 He discusses this briefly before he starts the book, and mentions it a few times in the book as well。 This book was way more enjoyable than the first book! Peterson still did take such a long time to explain each rule, but he remembered to say why the thing he was telling us was relevant to the rule more often。 I also enjoyed his use of Harry Potter as examples a few times。 I recommend the audiobook for this one! I am hopeful that the next few years will bring us yet another set of rules from Peterson! 。。。more

Bill Berg

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Dan Callaghan

Like many people, I first came to know and appreciate Jordan Peterson after his interview with Cathy Newman on Channel 4 News some time ago。 Whilst that interview was political in nature, much of his YouTube videos and both of his recently published books have been psychological - helping people to navigate life, with all its concomitant difficulties。 And so, despite the fact that self help books tend not to be my typical genre of choice (I am more of a fiction man, in general), I read Twelve Ru Like many people, I first came to know and appreciate Jordan Peterson after his interview with Cathy Newman on Channel 4 News some time ago。 Whilst that interview was political in nature, much of his YouTube videos and both of his recently published books have been psychological - helping people to navigate life, with all its concomitant difficulties。 And so, despite the fact that self help books tend not to be my typical genre of choice (I am more of a fiction man, in general), I read Twelve Rules for Life and it’s successor, Beyond Order。My first and overriding impression of these rules is how, in some sense, I already knew them。 Perhaps that is because I am fortunate enough to have been brought up in a stable and loving home that instilled these values in me from an early age。 That said, the fact that of rules consist of moral truths which I, at some sense, know deeply, is not to say that they are propagated often in today’s society, or that they are so obvious that they do not need to be stated。 On the contrary, I think that many people (myself included) are in greater need than ever of hearing these essential truths, and it is therefore a great service on the part of JP to clarify them and to bring them to the fore。 After all, we (at least in the West), live in a political/social climate heavily influenced by social media, and the lethal cocktail of mawkishness, oversimplification, judgementalism, ideologies and fads that accompany it。 Surely then, there is no better time than now to restate the foundational moral truths of our civilisation。I don’t propose to go into each rule in detail, but suffice it to say that these rules are presented in such a manner as to arouse in the reader a real proactive resolution to assume the mantle of responsibility over our own lives, and to put these methods of behaviour into practice。 They offer, with the aid of religious tales, folk stories, scientific facts and general good sense, a vision of self ownership which was inspiring both to me personally, I am sure, will be inspiring to many other readers in greater difficulty than I, and with a far heavier load to bear。 。。。more

Rachel

So—not as crisp or tight as “An Antidote to Chaos,” but a way to see both the positive and negatives sides of chaos and order。 Insightful。

Jeff Skipper

Great book。 Very helpful for the person being "suffocated" by too much order and maybe needs to step out into the unknown (chaos) to find health。 Very motivating and encouraging especially if you struggle with fear, etc。 Great book。 Very helpful for the person being "suffocated" by too much order and maybe needs to step out into the unknown (chaos) to find health。 Very motivating and encouraging especially if you struggle with fear, etc。 。。。more

Jeffrey

Many times this book felt like a rehash of the original rules, and while I feel that might be so, the thoughts and ideas discussed and the authors wisdom and experience shared are insightful and worth revisiting over and over again。 I have only vaguely followed Mr。 Peterson's work from afar online but am confident I will be unpacking his books multiple times over whatever time is alloted to me and hope to discover more depth and understanding from his online videos, etc。 as time allows Many times this book felt like a rehash of the original rules, and while I feel that might be so, the thoughts and ideas discussed and the authors wisdom and experience shared are insightful and worth revisiting over and over again。 I have only vaguely followed Mr。 Peterson's work from afar online but am confident I will be unpacking his books multiple times over whatever time is alloted to me and hope to discover more depth and understanding from his online videos, etc。 as time allows 。。。more

Graham McLeod

Liked the 2 chapters on art, 1 on stories, and 1 on creative achievement

Michael

Good but i think i have exhausted JBP content

Brandon Andersen

Absolutely amazing, as expected。

Broderic Duncan

It was hard to follow at times but I liked it。 Now I kinda want to re-read the first one

Jon Larson

A rare individual who can articulate complex issues into everyday language。 I hope this inspires you, as it did me, to a better person。 Loved it!I listened to the audiobook, read by the author。 I will have to listen to it again to keep it in front of me。 I liked it better than his " 12 rules for life" (plus, it is a bit more sobering)。 Well done。 A rare individual who can articulate complex issues into everyday language。 I hope this inspires you, as it did me, to a better person。 Loved it!I listened to the audiobook, read by the author。 I will have to listen to it again to keep it in front of me。 I liked it better than his " 12 rules for life" (plus, it is a bit more sobering)。 Well done。 。。。more

Benjamin

Seems a bit repetitive of 12 rules for life however I will be re-reading this, still a lot of value not mentioned in the former book。

Evie

One of the rare books I hoped wouldn't end。 One of the rare books I hoped wouldn't end。 。。。more

Bahaa Hamoud

All respect to J。 Peterson。This is not a normal book。 It’s a book written with devotion , trying in different ,direct and indirect ways, to convey one message: take responsibility for your being。It’s not an easy thing to take upon yourself the task of showing the importance of one sentence, that may even at some point sound like a cliche,: take responsibility for your being。Peterson translates jungian psychology and nietzschian philosophy into accessible terms for the normal reader to understand All respect to J。 Peterson。This is not a normal book。 It’s a book written with devotion , trying in different ,direct and indirect ways, to convey one message: take responsibility for your being。It’s not an easy thing to take upon yourself the task of showing the importance of one sentence, that may even at some point sound like a cliche,: take responsibility for your being。Peterson translates jungian psychology and nietzschian philosophy into accessible terms for the normal reader to understand。This man is a severely needed mentor : and in our time he is needed more than ever。 。。。more

Serg

The Moralists' Last StandJordan Peterson is a master communicator but a mediocre writer。 His lectures are electric but his writing is dull and boring。 The first book was good because despite its long-windedness it had some psychological depth, reaching into the nature of belief in Rule 7 and Rule 8。 In this book, Rule 5, 6, and 11 are the better chapters, but they're so haphazardly arranged。 This really needed major editing。 I get the sense he's aiming for an audience as wide as possible, but it The Moralists' Last StandJordan Peterson is a master communicator but a mediocre writer。 His lectures are electric but his writing is dull and boring。 The first book was good because despite its long-windedness it had some psychological depth, reaching into the nature of belief in Rule 7 and Rule 8。 In this book, Rule 5, 6, and 11 are the better chapters, but they're so haphazardly arranged。 This really needed major editing。 I get the sense he's aiming for an audience as wide as possible, but it's to the book's detriment。 The value of Peterson's idiosyncrasy is in his ability to communicate complex ideas, and not in his careening, idiomatic, and verbose narrative voice。Peterson is at his best when he tackles the really deep religious stuff -- again, he can vividly communicate these profound ideas without (overly) mangling them。 But there's too much recounting of personal anecdotes and basic mythology and god-damn Harry Potter。 Which is a shame because Peterson is one of our best "de-programmer"。 Peterson knows how belief and ideologies work。 This knowledge plus his masterful communication make him great at "red-pilling", steering people of all ages and backgrounds away from harmful ideologies and towards a path of self-mastery。 It's hard to imagine this book convincing anyone who isn't already familiar with Peterson's work。Lastly: a parallel to Nietzsche。 Peterson is no Nietzsche of course (though they've both sojourned through the underworld a bit)。 But fundamentally Peterson has adopted Nietzsche's problem: how should we act now that we don't have Christian morality? This question is everything。 What does Peterson represent for the ongoing death throes of the old world? That's obviously hard to answer。 But to me it seems like a head plunging up from the dark cold ocean, gasping desperate for breath。 Still lost, still drowning, but at least not yet drowned。 。。。more

Inka Hoe

Will soon finish this。 What an amazing book。 Couldnt thank JBP enough。 I'm soo excited yeayy^^ Will soon finish this。 What an amazing book。 Couldnt thank JBP enough。 I'm soo excited yeayy^^ 。。。more

Tarek Omran

I re-read my last years review of 12 rules for life and realized it can easily be copy pasted into this text box。 There is a large imposition of ideas (written by the same person in a short span of time) with the same overarching world view。 Seems that Jordan is implying that those takeaways are fundamental and of high importance— necessitating their repetition。Off with the old and repetitive of Jordan’s ideas。 What had new angles for me was the parts about deception, arrogance, love and relatio I re-read my last years review of 12 rules for life and realized it can easily be copy pasted into this text box。 There is a large imposition of ideas (written by the same person in a short span of time) with the same overarching world view。 Seems that Jordan is implying that those takeaways are fundamental and of high importance— necessitating their repetition。Off with the old and repetitive of Jordan’s ideas。 What had new angles for me was the parts about deception, arrogance, love and relationships。 Very nicely put and lots of Jordan’s experiences where shared。Even though the references used by Jordan are quite sufficient in number, I couldn’t help but noticed that this book has more of Jordan’s perspective and personal take on a plethora of universal concepts and less reliance on resources, when we compare it to 12 rules for life (which was a library of resources on its on)。 And interestingly, I just realized that maps of means was an even bigger bibliography of recourses。 It seems that the more experience you gain from life the less resources you need to make a point? (Reminds me of the first research paper I wrote with 40 references just to prove that my research was relevant and my results credible #selfconfidence) 。。。more

Max Baldwin

A generational writer and thinker

Darren Douglas

I don't have the psychological vernacular, insight, nor wisdom, to express how remarkable this book actually is。 For those wanting a quick description, it is to topics of general psychological import and works on an emotional and visceral level, drawing from your own experiences, and draws conclusions from intellect, shining a light on things otherwise forgotten or ignored (things you didn't realise you knew)。 It's better than the first book, insofar that there is more of his remarkable insight I don't have the psychological vernacular, insight, nor wisdom, to express how remarkable this book actually is。 For those wanting a quick description, it is to topics of general psychological import and works on an emotional and visceral level, drawing from your own experiences, and draws conclusions from intellect, shining a light on things otherwise forgotten or ignored (things you didn't realise you knew)。 It's better than the first book, insofar that there is more of his remarkable insight into how we work as individuals。 And thus, we should be lucky, really damn lucky, in lieu of his recent health issues, that these books have been written at all。  So many nuggets of truth that I won't spoil here, but what I have gleaned mostly from this book is real self-awareness。 Games are to be played for higher social meaning, love those dearly, don't fall prey to doubt, listen to those with opposing ideas。  Thank you, Jordan, truly humbled, and will no doubt be revisiting over and over again for many years to come。 。。。more

Marian Leica

To my surprise, I've received a few negative reactions when I started this book, some people seem to hate something about it or the author。 I've responded that I'll make my own mind by finishing it first。Now that I did, I see nothing to hate, his other books and this one have a genuine and clear language of explaining certain cotidian aspects of life which in practice seem to be helping people be better and make rightful decisions in their own lives。 For that, it has my respect。 To my surprise, I've received a few negative reactions when I started this book, some people seem to hate something about it or the author。 I've responded that I'll make my own mind by finishing it first。Now that I did, I see nothing to hate, his other books and this one have a genuine and clear language of explaining certain cotidian aspects of life which in practice seem to be helping people be better and make rightful decisions in their own lives。 For that, it has my respect。 。。。more

Vincent T。 Ciaramella

I really enjoyed this book。 Peterson has some great insight that makes me think well beyond when I put the book down。 I will be keeping this book as a reference guide and it will have a place of honor on my desk。 I need to re-read his other book on Rules for Life。 Its been a few years and I want to refresh myself with the material。 But for now I am reading Ordinary Men, a book he talked about in this volume。

Brad Bevers

Really enjoyed this one, but that's no surprise given how much I like his original 12 Rules book。 When I read his books, I find that about 20% of the writing is brilliant and insightful, and the rest is good but not great。 However, I have a feeling that the 20% that I love will not be the same 20% for everyone。 He is able to communicate truth and get to the root of very deep issues quickly, and if those things resonate with you then you are going to get a lot of out of it。 I love his take on Chr Really enjoyed this one, but that's no surprise given how much I like his original 12 Rules book。 When I read his books, I find that about 20% of the writing is brilliant and insightful, and the rest is good but not great。 However, I have a feeling that the 20% that I love will not be the same 20% for everyone。 He is able to communicate truth and get to the root of very deep issues quickly, and if those things resonate with you then you are going to get a lot of out of it。 I love his take on Christianity, marriage, mythology, and Disney movies in this book。 Highly recommended 。 。 。 but I would read 12 Rules first if you haven't read that yet。 。。。more

Ashley Wiersma

Should have done this one with my book club。 Somebody read it so I can talk to you about it! Fascinating impetus for self-reflection and assessment。 Also, the opener! Unbelievable story。

Darjeeling

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Dan Meyer

It is hard to assess Dr。 Jordan Peterson’s newest book, Beyond Order: 12 More Rules for Life — on what level should it be scrutinized? As a simple self-help book, it is as innovative and profoundly wise as its predecessor 12 Rules for Life; as a scholarly work it lags behind his Maps of Meaning and assorted online lecture series; it does however surpass 12 Rules for Life in its depth, though not in clarity。Many detractors will choose to review this book as a scientific work of psychology, pickin It is hard to assess Dr。 Jordan Peterson’s newest book, Beyond Order: 12 More Rules for Life — on what level should it be scrutinized? As a simple self-help book, it is as innovative and profoundly wise as its predecessor 12 Rules for Life; as a scholarly work it lags behind his Maps of Meaning and assorted online lecture series; it does however surpass 12 Rules for Life in its depth, though not in clarity。Many detractors will choose to review this book as a scientific work of psychology, picking apart the mythological stories and clinical observations with pedantic arguments。 These are not new critiques, and they are barely worth addressing。Beyond Order, like his earlier 12 Rules for Life, is meant to introduce readers to Peterson’s ethical philosophy without sacrificing the depth of his perspective。 It is unlike many self-help books in its honesty and genuine depth of philosophical, religious, and psychological contributions。It is clear that Beyond Order departs from 12 Rules in its method, which is more focused on mythological stories and clinical case studies than its predecessor。 I found Beyond Order to be less focused and precise than, and thus inferior to, 12 Rules — though even at its weakest, it transcends every competing self-help book。 Peterson’s ability to weave psychological research with religious and mythological lessons has always been immensely compelling to me (and, judging by his success, to many others)。There is little to critique in the actual message of the book, which offers exceptional advice for both young and old like。 In particular, I found “Rule 2: Imagine who you could be, and then aim single-mindedly at that” to be a masterpiece in itself。No doubt the clumsiness and unfocused feeling of this book compared to 12 Rules for Life is due to the extreme personal and medical issues that Peterson was dealing with at the time of writing。 He mentioned in a recent interview with Dave Rubin that he had trouble recalling information, which may explain the fewer scientific citations。 Yet when you consider the immense strain Peterson must have been under while writing this book, it is an undeniable triumph — despite its flaws。 For those of us who are familiar with Peterson’s ideas, it might seem like a watered-down version of an otherwise incredibly rich philosophy。 Yet for those who have read 12 Rules for Life and are otherwise unacquainted with Peterson’s broader work (for whom this book is intended), you will find a rich guide to living in accordance with the world。 。。。more

Adrianne Crawford

The fact that he wrote this book during what he has called the most difficult time of his life is incredible。 It also makes the book even more valuable because he wrote the advice as he was forced to take the advice himself。 He has become even more of an expert on subjects of grief, endurance and and gratitude, and this made reading this book even more powerful。 It is hard to pick a favorite “rule” of the 12 in this book, but I would say that the one that stands out most to me is “Do not hide un The fact that he wrote this book during what he has called the most difficult time of his life is incredible。 It also makes the book even more valuable because he wrote the advice as he was forced to take the advice himself。 He has become even more of an expert on subjects of grief, endurance and and gratitude, and this made reading this book even more powerful。 It is hard to pick a favorite “rule” of the 12 in this book, but I would say that the one that stands out most to me is “Do not hide unwanted things in the fog。” 。。。more

Bryan

If you follow the author then you will be familiar with a lot of what's discussed in this book and you will be very pleased with how he has fleshed out what he has been discussing with the public over the last year。 Another excellent contribution to the world community by Dr。 Peterson。 If you follow the author then you will be familiar with a lot of what's discussed in this book and you will be very pleased with how he has fleshed out what he has been discussing with the public over the last year。 Another excellent contribution to the world community by Dr。 Peterson。 。。。more